Whenever we relate the wrongdoings of the Society, a kindly Witness will nearly always tell us not to harp on “human imperfections” because “Jehovah will make it right.”
In response to this my first impulse is to ask: If God’s organization on Earth is just as prone to human imperfections as worldly organizations, then what distinguishes it as godly? But that’s a question for another day.
What I want to examine here is the notion that “Jehovah will make it right.” You see, I’ve never seen that as an adequate excuse for the existence of wrongdoing. Let me explain by taking a non-religious example.
Let’s say that a vulnerable, innocent young child is sexually molested by a depraved maniac who then attempts to beat her to death, but fails: leaving her not only traumatized but brain damaged and suffering a lifetime of chronic pain as well. Can someone please tell me how to “make this right”? What could possibly make it right? Money? Punishing the criminal? Keeping the victim on drugs her whole life to take away the pain? What about the psychological trauma? Can therapy “make it right”?
No, none of the suggested solutions could possibly “make it right.” The most they could do is try to make the victim as comfortable as possible given the circumstances.
But wait, you say: what if we could make her well and give her an eternity in paradise? Wouldn’t that make it right? Well, no; it wouldn’t. The memory of that event will have shaped her personality and have left life-long psychological scars. What if we heal those as well, you ask, and erase the memory from her mind?
Wouldn’t she eventually learn to trust again, and find peace and love amongst other perfect people? I can only imagine this happening by reshaping her (and everyone else) into some sort of standardized “perfect person” in which everyone becomes identical (with all past traumas erased, and all personalities remolded to a norm with no reference to how their lives originally shaped them.) I hope a world filled with identical robots is not anyone’s idea of paradise; it’s certainly not mine.
No, there could only be one way to “make it right” without destroying personalities and ending up with an excruciatingly boring eternity amongst identical people. That way would be to go back in time and prevent the incident from occurring. But to change one incident in the past is to affect a multitude of other things, and radically change the present (as science-fiction writers have frequently–and correctly–pointed out.) And, if God were willing and capable of manipulating the past, then why wouldn’t he have just prevented the crime from occurring in the first place? Since he didn’t prevent it the first time around, it is even more unlikely that he would manipulate time and prevent it the second time around.
Now let’s take an example from the context of a Jehovah’s Witness life. Mary lost her son as a result of obeying the Watchtower commandment to “abstain from blood transfusions.”
It’s hard to imagine the grief this caused unless you are a parent whose child has died due to your erroneous beliefs. Her son was denied the remainder of his childhood, as well as adulthood. Mary was denied watching her son grow into manhood. Those years can never be replaced. Mary no longer believes the Watchtower’s tales of resurrection, so there is no comfort for her in such lies. Even if she did still believe, there would be no real comfort in looking forward to receiving a substitute child: a newly created “person” injected with the memories of her son. Her son himself is gone forever, and a future surrogate cannot “make it right.”
Here’s another true-life Witness example: My sister was unjustly disfellowshipped. Can Jehovah “make it right?” 
Can he restore the 30 years of friendships she missed out on due to the Watchtower’s policy of shunning? It just so happens that her best Witness friend (former roommate and pioneering partner) eventually “saw the light” and left the Watchtower religion and contacted my sister. They renewed their friendship after 30 years, only to have it end a few years later with her friend’s untimely death. But those 30 years of shunning and being made to feel like dirt cannot be “made right;” the psychological damage has been done, the loneliness has been endured, and we can never have those years back again.
No, my friends, not even a god can make wrongdoings right. So, the next time you hear this excuse please don’t accept it: challenge it. Ask: “How could this ever be made right?” If there were a loving God looking out for us [or for “his organization”] wrongdoing would never occur in the first place. 
There was a great science-fiction movie that came out a few years ago called Minority Report in which they had developed a method of predicting murders. When they knew a murder was about to be committed, the police would take immediate steps to prevent it (usually catching the murderer “red-handed”), and then would lock up the would-be perpetrator. Well, of course that’s what any ethical person would do. But we are to imagine a God of perfect morals who sees (and foresees) murders, rapes, and child molestation — and does absolutely nothing to prevent them or rescue the victims! Instead, he sits silently and observes the crimes as they occur. So, this is a god who is less moral than we are. Yet this is the same god we are supposed to believe will somehow “make it right.” I’m not buying it: no sensible person could.
The fact that wrongdoing does occur, the fact that the Kingdom Halls of Jehovah’s Witnesses are widely known as a “paradise for pedophiles,” and the fact that the suicide rate is higher amongst Witnesses than non-Witnesses due to their disfellowshipping policy, comprise overwhelming evidence that this cannot possibly be a loving God’s “organization on Earth.”
“But,” you say: “this is all just the price we pay for having followed Satan; we must bear the consequences of that until such time as Jehovah turns the tables and takes over the world. Then our blissful eternity will eventually make our present woes seem irrelevant.”
Such rationalizations remind me of the heartfelt answer given to them in my favorite novel: Dostoevsky’s The Brother’s Karamazov. 
There the question is asked: what price are we willing to pay for future bliss? Think back to my first example of that young girl who was raped and beaten. Do you accept that as the price of admission into the New World? Or would you say “No! The price is too high”? Personally, I agree with Dostoevsky: I have “turned my ticket back in” and I refuse to enter a New World which requires that we sacrifice our children to gain admittance. Those who can accept such a deal have lost their humanity and my respect.
William • 4 years ago
These are sad, but true, e.g. of why we should oppose cults and false religions that are destructive. This does not mean there is no God or no true faith that is helpful, not harmful. Concerned Christians and former JWs should expose the lies and evil practices and beliefs of the WT (but this is no excuse for rejecting the loving, holy God who condemns vs condones these things).
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WatchtowerHelper William • 4 years ago
If you define your god as all-powerful and all-knowing, then he condones these things by his inaction. I think this is an excellent reason for rejecting the idea that such a god is loving.
And please don’t give me the lame excuse of “freewill” unless you would sincerely have qualms about interfering with the freewill of a child molester.
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William WatchtowerHelper • 4 years ago
A free will defence is part of the issue. God is not an aloof Deist god nor is He a micromanaging control freak. In order to have reciprocal love relationships with significant others with a say so, the possibility of good and evil must exist. God will triumph over evil in the end and justice will take place (delayed is not denied). He is with us through things and has suffered Himself in Christ when He defeated sin, sickness, Satan, death, hell. My not feeding starving kids directly in Africa does not mean I condone their plight or am pleased that my sent aid is taken by corrupt governments. You want a free world with God controlling all things (cake and eat it too). God is omnipotent, omniscient, holy, loving, good, etc., but your putting God in the dock instead of yourself shows your pride and rebellion.
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WatchtowerHelper William • 4 years ago
So, here’s William, practicing “godliness” as he walks past the child being molested in the park: “Sorry, kid; I can’t help you; I’m not a micro-manager, and I certainly can’t be expected to interfere with your molester’s freewill!”
Excuse me, William for having accused you of godliness in the above paragraph; it’s much worse than calling someone stupid, and I apologize. I don’t really think you’re godly: I just wanted to make a point.
If “God will triumph over evil in the end” then there goes your freewill excuse. If God’s going to interfere with freewill [violently] sometime in the future, then you can’t use freewill as an excuse for him not to interfere in the present.
As I pointed out in the article, victory over evil “in the end” will be too late. There are some things that cannot ever be “made right” unless they are prevented in the first place. Not by anyone. Not even by a god: any god.
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Isabella Botticelli • 2 years ago
If a parent were asked to lock their 2 year old child in a room with a pack of ravenous wolves – and then left the child as they went on their merry way, what do we expect would happen and what do we think about the parent? Well, if there is a God, didn’t he do exactly the same thing in creating humans? What kind of “parent” would go thru the trouble of ‘creating’ a living being, then promptly abandon it to demonic forces? There is no ‘god’ who is going to “make things right.” If he exists, he created the mess in the first place and obviously doesn’t give a crap about humans. That is how I would now respond to any JW who says, “Jehovah will make it right.”
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Kimbal Summers • 4 years ago
I might play the devil’s advocate here – because when I was a J.W. the logic the Elders threw at me when I raised similar reasoning as your post – was the case in Joshua 10:13 –
“And he said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon. And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is this not written in the Book of Jasher ? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.”
This is biblical support that God controls time ( to some extent ); as we are now out by almost one day in our Calendar. Additional to this support is the following
scriptures –
Matthew 19:26 – “But Jesus beheld [them], and said unto
them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.”
Mark 9:23 – Jesus said unto him, “If thou can’t believe, all things [are] possible to him that believe.”
Mark 10:27 – And Jesus looking upon them said, “With men [it is] impossible, but not with God: for with God all things are possible.”
Luke 1:37 – “For with God nothing shall be impossible.”
Luke 18:27 – And he said, “The things which are impossible with men are possible with God.”
Now if we are to take the above as fact – then God can “reverse time” and fix the past.
But looking at the other side of the same coin – assuming God has this ability – he stands idly by while heinous sins are committed without interference; – that makes him an accessory to the crime and worse than the criminal who committed the act. That makes him along with the angels allies of Satan.
This demonstrates he has no love for man – that he prefers to see you suffer and likes to play with your life as some sort of insidious entertainment – and therefore he becomes a stumbling block to those without faith.
Irrespective of which way you reason, he is not a deity I want in my life !
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William Kimbal Summers • 4 years ago
If you look at the suffering of God in Christ you would understand the horror of our sin and the great love of Christ. The cross (not torture stake) is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who believe, it is the power of God (I Cor. 1:18). You are rejecting a straw man caricature of the great loving, holy Father God fully revealed in Christ. He has given you freedom and hell is for those who do not like Him or want to be with him. Your problem is ignorant arrogance, rebellion, pride, not lack of information (WT is not the source for biblical truth, but turns people off of it).
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Kimbal Summers William • 4 years ago
Do I have a problem ? That being “ignorant arrogance” !
Let’s put it this way –
It’s better to reign in hell, than to serve in heaven !
I don’t see serving God any sort of freedom, but slavery.
And as Revelation implies – a third of the stars left God’s abode and went with the Dragon.
When 33.33% of God’s heavenly organization walks out on him and follows Satan, such situations tell me there is a dead fish in the God’s camp.
So too, those following Satan at the end of the 1000 year reign, “were as the sands of the sea”.
For so many to leave, indicates God has a real issue in managing things in the camp. The vast majority, who are as the sands of the sea, do not see God as the loving deity he claims to be, in fact, they don’t recognize Christ’s ransom as having any value – that it is a sham.
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William Kimbal Summers • 4 years ago
Romans 1
John 3:16
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Kimbal Summers William • 4 years ago
Isaiah 45:7
American Standard Version
” I form the light, and create darkness; I make peace, and create evil. I am Jehovah, that doeth all these things.”
Isaiah 45:7 CEB
Common English Bible
“I form light and create darkness, make prosperity and create doom; I am the LORD, who does all these things.”
Isaiah 45:7 CJB
Complete Jewish Bible
“I form light, I create darkness; I make well-being, I create woe; I, ADONAI, do all these things.”
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And so who is it the created all these things – the devil, the suffering, the evil, and then manipulates creation to do his will ? His own mouth condemns him – for it is IMPOSSIBLE for God to lie ! – He only tells truth.
The bible is the biggest witness against God ever written – it’s his own word of condemnation !
Quoting John 3 : 16 tells me God is child murderer – as he loved his son so little, that he stood by to watch him being offered up as a child sacrifice. Sacrificing ones own son – Is not that what Moloch accepts ? Does not that place God on the same level as a demon ? It’s not love – it’s demonic.
And as for Romans 1 – I assume your having a dig at me particularly with the following words >
“18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.
21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.
24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshipped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.
26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. 32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.”
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Since most of that is Paul words is spoken against Godless homosexuals, evolutionists and materialists – of which I am none of these – then I could well understand – but as I am an insolent God hater ( who believes in God as much as you do and maybe more-so), who is full of malice and boastful arrogance, for good reason – I can well understand. But you obviously don’t know what I know – for I preach a much older faith that yours, that was around before the word of Christ came into being – a condemned gospel;- for I am one of the accursed !
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William Kimbal Summers • 4 years ago
Huh? Where to begin. If you were a JW, it shows that they do not teach people to exegete Scripture or think critically.
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Jaymes Payten Head Heathen William • 4 years ago
William, you believe in god, ergo you are not “thinking critically”.
Matthew 7:5
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Kimbal Summers William • 4 years ago
Yes William I was raised a J.W for 28 years – from 1961-1989 and a ministerial servant for 4 of those years – as well as one of the biggest Watchtower Book Collectors in the country ( Australia ).
So tell me where I am wrong – or am I so blind, that I am beyond all rehabilitation in Christ ? As I said – I preach a very different and much older doctrine than your own.
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William Kimbal Summers • 4 years ago
What do you mean book collector? Do you have a library of old WT material? This would be of value to help people leave the organization. What led you to leaving the organization? I do not know your beliefs on core issues, so I do not know if you are right or wrong. You are not beyond salvation in Christ. Many ex-JWs have become true believers, but others have been turned off religion or have given themselves over to godless lives. What is your older doctrine? Judaism? Hinduism? Monotheism is the oldest religion, not atheism, not Gnosticism, etc. I am thankful you have some connection to Randall Watters and are an ex-JW. Tell me more…
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Kimbal Summers William • 4 years ago
Well William;
As for the book collecting I have a very loose collection of items which I rarely use now as I can get most things off the internet.
But I had and massive collection of original and Xeroxed watchtower material which rivalled the Australian Bethel in the late 1980’s before I sold it all off to other ex-witnesses in Australia & USA.
I know of Randy and have corresponded with him many years ago including Ray Franze. I left over the the chronology issue after reading Carl Olaf Johnson’s original thesis ( yes I wrote to Carl as well ) on the Gentile Times. I had a copy of the first manuscript along with many other references related to the same subject.
Most ex-witnesses and witnesses don’t have the intelligence to understand the chronology issues and so such topics go over their heads, when the subject is discussed.
Many exs I know are no longer religious, but celebrate Xmas and Easter and break every rule in the book because they can. They are also not interested in seeking truth in any form.
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As for my faith – I believe in an old archaic religion one that existed long before Jehovah came into being. Its Genesis is covered in the Enuma-Elish. How I discovered it is another story in itself. Some translations are shown below; >
http://www.csun.edu/~rlc319…
http://reinep.files.wordpre…
http://theknowledgeden.com/…
For a start Jehovah is not the supreme creator, but a much lesser god known as “the Ancient of Days”. He is the first born of the elder god Enlil. He is known as the God Sin or Nanna Sin and he use to dwell on mount sin or Mt Sinai where Moses received the 10 commandments. His name YHWH is an acronym of the 4 quadrants of ‘the Tablets of Destiny’ which the gods use to create life and hold their authority. The custodian of the tablets can rightfully call himself “GOD” or “the Supreme Being” above all.
In saying this the tablets have changed hands many times throughout history. Their real owner is Tiamat the Great Dragon who bore and created all things by them but was defeated by Marduk who was Enki’s son and Jehovah’s nephew.
As for Jesus he is a bastard child born out of wedlock, from the genetic essence of Nanna-Sin and his sister Inanna, who is the Queen of Heaven.
Jehovah’s brother is Nergal, the god of the underworld, who we know as Satan> Negal married Queen Ereshkigal who is Inanna’s dark twin and known in myth as the Gorgon.
The reason I hate the Messianic Kingdom with its ransom, is because it’s a direct violation of the old covenant – ( not the Mosaic covenant, but the very first covenant where man was created as a slave and food source for the gods. His prayers are their food supply ), – established between the first gods and the Great Old Ones, those most ancient of ancient ones, who were ruled over under Tiamat.
Jehovah has directly violated that very first covenant and in so doing, broken divine law of his fathers.
These violations I am referring too, are something far, far, worse than sinning against the holy spirit and supporting Satan’s cause. They go way beyond such biblical accusations. In the big scheme of things the bible’s promise, plus Jehovah’s kingdom verses Satan’s, are small fish in the sea, as compared to what I am referring too with the covenant.
It goes far, far, deeper than what I have covered – but I’ve briefly outlined the story.
As I said I preach a faith that is accursed !
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William Kimbal Summers • 4 years ago
Thx for the info. You have gone from one deception to another lie/myth. I would not be quick to put down the intelligence of your former friends?! Judeo-Christianity is revelation from God. Your new, novel religion is even more false than WT. Jn. 14:6; Acts 4:12
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Kimbal Summers William • 4 years ago
Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
John 14; 6 > “Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”
That’s part of the problem – Jesus is the only way – there is no choice. Free will has been taken away. “It’s my way, or the highway” as far as Jesus is concerned.
And we all know “the highway is broad and spacious, leading to destruction and many are ones on it” – including me.
Acts 4:12> “Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved.”
In my so called deluded faith – you don’t need to be saved, as there is nothing to be saved from. Creation just is !
Imperfection is perfection. Evil is totally justified as a part of life. The darkness was around long before the light – Genesis 1:2-5.
I’d expect you as a non-believer ( from my perspective ) to denigrate another’s beliefs to a myth, without due cause. You know nothing about what you condemn, other than your taught it’s a myth.
By what authority and right do you have to say your only way ? GOD’s ? Which god ?
By what authority and law does this god of yours make these rules ?
And If I disagree with your way and choose death – does it really matter ? Would anyone care ?
Will your god shed a tear over my stand for something I believe is a violation of what is due ?
If I am so wrong, then why does he not strike me dead, rather than idly stand by and let me spit venom into his eyeball, upon all who those who arrogantly question my so called foolish ignorance ?
For the same reason he lets Satan exist ! – Because it suits his agenda.
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Dave Reekie • 4 years ago
davetrash.wordpress.com
William, you say that God is omniscient,
omnipotent, holy loving and good. My question is and always has been… why did
he allow Satan to rise up against him. Surely he would have nipped it in the
bud? I don’t think that if I was a spirit creature seeing that happen, I would
have disagreed. I would have trusted my loving creators judgement on the matter.
Why also did satan think that he could take God on.. was there a flaw in the
“perfect creator” that he thought he could exploit? So many questions begin to
arise over this small area of biblical history that I doubt that any of it took
place. All we have to answer these questions is a book written by men who lived
in a time of war, rape, pillage and genocide…I do not buy in to it and I do
not want or need to feel wholly answerable to an aloof being that claims to care
for us. This same being who according to the bible allowed so much suffering in
the resultant 6-9 thousand years to atone for the sins of one man and to settle
a score over a matter that had nothing to do with humans. Oh yeah he will make
it right by giving us a paradise. If any of us disagree we die? Do as I say or
you will die… that’s love right there. I am not sure but Hitler had a similar
message?
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William Dave Reekie • 4 years ago
Free will that is so easily revoked vs irrevocable is not genuine free will. Despite wrong views of God/theology, God is one who risks in love. A risk free universe would mean that God is a dictator or does not create at all. He will mitigate evil as much as possible and will triumph over it in the end (and hold accountable all who perpetuate it). Full answers will be revealed in the end with great minds giving credible answers (that atheists have more problems than solutions to) now. God is not on trial, but we are. His character and attributes are defensible despite heinous evil that creatures vs God are responsible for. http://www.amazon.com/Is-Go…
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Dave Reekie William • 4 years ago
Surely by stating that there is only one way to ultimately live ones life, the other option resulting in damnation. He would be descreetly removing free will. Free will would dictate a world where believers and non believers could live side by side (a utopian dream I know). When presented with a choice of his way or death…. Dictator. His way has never been proven as the right way? His existence also has yet to be proven, as a result any argument presented on his behalf has to be dismissed. IMHO
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William Dave Reekie • 4 years ago
Pascal’s Wager ring a bell? Few understand the Moral Government of God, His role as Moral Governor, His love, His holiness. It is sad that the WT fiasco has poisoned so many from loving and serving the most beautiful, awesome, valuable being in the universe.
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Dave Reekie William • 4 years ago
surely pascals gambit proves my point, there is no proof of god existing and no proof that he doesn’t other than his inaction . So to believe in god is the only option given that the consequences would be dire if he did exist. I prefer reason and logic… Which dictates that there are no deities of any kind given that I have never seen or been touched by one. If I was in gods position and had his power would it be too much of an ask that he paid me a visit and told me that he wanted me to follow him… I know that there is an argument to state that god does not need to visit us and that his awesomeness would be too much for us mere mortals. But surely with his power and skills he could figure a way out. A way that wasn’t presented in the form of an ancient fallible book or tablet written by imperfect beings? The bible teaches that god cares and loves us all yet he can’t get off his ass and talk to us in person. We are allegedly created in his image and that would be my choice of actions, surely he would have a better way. At the end of the day god does not exist and never has. Prove me wrong I dare you?
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William Dave Reekie • 4 years ago
Genesis 1:1 and gravity are both true even if you deny them.
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Dave Reekie William • 4 years ago
There is evidence to support gravity, to be fair we do not fully understand it. But the beginning of the universe has far more scientific evidence that points towards god not being involved. The only evidence of gods creative efforts exist in the bible, as my position on the bible is hopefully clear coupled with clear critical thinking the account of genesis has to be discounted.
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William Dave Reekie • 4 years ago
Science and the Bible confirm the universe had a beginning. In my view, a jumbo jet requires intelligent design/designer/makers. In your view, it could just appear in working order by time, chance, matter (and where did the matter come from?). Something does not come from nothing. Life does not come from non-life. Intelligence and morality do not arise from rocks. God alone is uncreated Creator, the only logical explanation for reality.
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WatchtowerHelper William • 4 years ago
William,
There is nothing “logical” about arguing for the premise that “something does not come from nothing” and then concluding that God (who came from nothing) exists. It is not a logically valid argument, so there’s no sense in going on to the next step of examining the premises. (But, I suspect you’ve been told this before.)
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WatchtowerHelper William • 4 years ago
Gen 1:6-10 denies Gen 1:1 (stating that God did not create the heavens and the Earth “in the beginning,” but rather on the second and third day, respectively. And Gen 2:4 further denies that: stating that they both were created in a single day.)
Due to its self-contradictory nature, as soon as one is able to think critically about the Bible, one can’t even believe that the first two chapters are true (much less the whole thing.)
But no one has ever denied gravity and lived long (at least not if they acted on that belief.)
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William WatchtowerHelper • 4 years ago
The problem is with your wrong understanding of Genesis, not with the account itself. JWs were never taught to think and interpret, just be indoctrinated and spout it back.
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WatchtowerHelper William • 4 years ago
William,
Oh, there’s a ton of problems with the account itself, as any unbiased examination will quickly reveal.
I would never have written that as a Witness. I am now able to see what the Bible actually says (rather than force-interpreting it into preconceived ideas) and to write logically about it only because I have taught myself to think after leaving all religion, not just the Witnesses.
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